2 doves or "pigeons"...!
poordom in the Bible Old testament...!
14 'But if his offering to the LORD is a burnt offering of birds, then he shall bring his offering from the turtledoves or from young pigeons.
7 'But if he cannot afford a lamb, then he shall bring to the LORD his guilt offering for that in which he has sinned, two turtledoves or two young pigeons, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering.
11 'But if his means are insufficient for two turtledoves or two young pigeons, then for his offering for that which he has sinned, he shall bring the tenth of an ephah of fine flour for a sin offering; he shall not put oil on it or place incense on it, for it is a sin offering.
8 But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"
22 and two turtledoves or two young pigeons which are within his means, the one shall be a sin offering and the other a burnt offering.
30 He shall then offer one of the turtledoves or young pigeons, which are within his means.
14 Then on the eighth day he shall take for himself two turtledoves or two young pigeons, and come before the LORD to the doorway of the tent of meeting and give them to the priest;
29 Then on the eighth day she shall take for herself two turtledoves or two young pigeons and bring them in to the priest, to the doorway of the tent of meeting.
Jesus Presented at the Temple
21 And when eight days had passed, before His circumcision, His name was then called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.
22 And when the days for their purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him up to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord
23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, "Every firstborn male that opens the womb shall be called holy to the Lord"),
24 and to offer a sacrifice according to what was said in the Law of the Lord, "A pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons."
...not everybody in Israel those days followed the jew law of Leviticus, as there were others from foreign countries, and at that time they were under Roman law rule!
...the World has not progressed from poordom, which this God of the Bible provided laws for, establishing their existence and Capitalism!
...although Jesus tried to make everybody believe he was "poor", he most likely had to be a rich gay, that never married nor had sex! and he also simply stated that they would always have the poor amongst them...!
...two turtle doves as payment or sacrifice...! the theory of need for sacrifice for some kind of redemption!
...to this day, this mentality and Bible Religions, are catered by main World Governments, as a political instrument, to soothe their lack of provision of a good life for all of us...! and to explain to "childish emotional adults" that Jesus or God is waiting for them, to give them the wanton heaven on Earth after life...!
...FOR THIS CHRISTMAS MESSAGE TO ALL, BEFORE THE PRIME MINISTER STEPHEN HARPER OR QUEEN E2 DO...!
ill run power and oppression, does not believe in you not being poor or a peasant...! the system provides for this existence ! but queen elizabeth nor stephen harper will ever be poor or peasants...! that is what you call equal conditions of life and happiness...!
We can all do something about it, by writing to both a letter in request of the abolition of fables Religions and Biology Evolution, money laundering, and the establishment of the provision of a middle life for all...! otherwise anything they say is "hogwash"...!: from Bank of Canada interest rates, and mortgage interest rates, to fiscal cliffs, to taxes, to your own housing, to landlords, to "welfare" , etc...!
PLEASE SUPPORT SOMEWAY THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW LOGIC AND PURE LOGIC, to be freed from all these ancient minded "persons" that enslave us...!
THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEIR RELIGION HEAVEN IS HERE...!
If you lost a loved one recently, do yourself a favor of self respect and do not respect any Religion vigil you go to...! It is an utter dis-respect to your intelligence! Do your own human vigil and ignore these Religions! Whether we die for ever or not! Obviously we cannot do anything from here for the dead! ABANDON CHURCHES AND LETS DO OUR OWN CITY OR TOWN CENTER GATHERINGS, under the best rules of human relationship and functioning!